Thursday, June 09, 2005

Important Housekeeping Matters

CORRECTION....

"Membership Fee Php 200 and minimum voluntary
contribution Php 100 per plan Bank Account: c/o PEP
Coalition, Inc. BPI (Broadway Branch) C/A 0401-0084-03
Kindly fax deposit slip to 824-8144 or text the above
numbers for monitoring"

The bank account name should be Parents Enabling
Parents Coalition, Inc. (not PEP Coalition, Inc.) and
checks should be made payable to the complete name.

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membership form Posted by Hello

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Special Power of Atty 1 Posted by Hello


Special Power of Atty 2 Posted by Hello

26 Comments:

At Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:41:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whether Pacific Plans, Inc.’s Traditional Education Plan product design is flawed or its past or current management failed in its investments, or the spin-off was the most logical thing to do to protect the other 400,000 plan holders, WHATSOEVER, we, the open ended education plan holders, have all the right to demand the full schedule of benefits for our children’s tuition expenses at whatever cost at the time of need. Not at year 2010. This is not an issue between the agents who sold it to us and ourselves. This is not an issue on the fate of the PPI agents who oppose our views and fear for the loss of their future income brought about by our bold step in forming the coalition. This is not an issue between open ended plan holders and fixed plan holders. This is not an issue between the new or old set of employees of PPI and us. This is an issue between Alfonso Yuchengco, the owner of PPI and us. We bought these plans. We stuck by our obligations. We paid these plans in full. Mr. Alfonso Yuchengco is liable not to the coalition but to all of us. All thirty four thousand of us, plan holders with CERTIFICATES OF FULL PAYMENT.

 
At Friday, June 10, 2005 6:27:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I always thought that the purpose of the coalition was to help planholders recover tution fees. Now there's a P200 fee here, P100 contribution there. Money-making scheme lang pala ito!!! Don't be fooled!

 
At Friday, June 10, 2005 6:56:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Compared to the millions the Yuchengcos have stashed away, what is a few hundred pesos for our own cause? Who is fooling whom?

 
At Friday, June 10, 2005 11:31:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To poster who said:

"I always thought that the purpose of the coalition was to help planholders recover tution fees. Now there's a P200 fee here, P100 contribution there. Money-making scheme lang pala ito!!! Don't be fooled!"
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We would not be spending this if PPI/YGC did not do what they did to us.

But if we had to spend P300 in order to support the coalition's move for us to get what is due us from PPI/YGC, we are more than willing to fork this amount out. DI HAMAK NA MAS MALAKI ang ninakaw sa amin ng PPI/YGC!!!

 
At Friday, June 10, 2005 12:57:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

NINAKAW? Binabalik nga eh.

Pag ninakaw, wala kang matatanggap.

 
At Friday, June 10, 2005 1:49:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

NINKAW naman talaga a! o sige, wag nating tawaging pagnanakaw - pandadaya nalang..... ano pa ba ang matatawag mo sa kumuha ng pera sa iyo, nangakong paaralin ang mga anak mo, ginamit ang pera mo, tapos, makaraan ng maraming taon isosoli nalang daw sayo ang pera mo with interest naman daw at 7% (na di hamak na mas mababa kaysa sa kinita ng pera mo kung ikaw nalang ang nag-invest o gumamit).... hindi nga naman pagnanakaw yon.... PANGGAGANTSO o PANGDARAYA lang!

 
At Friday, June 10, 2005 9:46:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

NINAKAW? Binabalik nga eh.

Pag ninakaw, wala kang matatanggap.

With what? Napocor bonds!!!! Pati sa senado pinagtawanan ng mga senador nong nalaman na ang ibabayad sa amin ay nopocor bonds

 
At Saturday, June 11, 2005 4:23:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I always thought that the purpose of the coalition was to help planholders recover tution fees. Now there's a P200 fee here, P100 contribution there. Money-making scheme lang pala ito!!! Don't be fooled!"

The coalition is not forcing people to join. This is purely voluntary. If you don't want to spend the P200 fee here and P100 contribution there, then, that's your choice.

 
At Saturday, June 11, 2005 7:36:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone posted:
"I always thought that the purpose of the coalition was to help planholders recover tution fees. Now there's a P200 fee here, P100 contribution there. Money-making scheme lang pala ito!!! Don't be fooled!"

Obviously not a sympathizer for the cause, di ba? Ni walang finesse ang mga bira -- "Don't be fooled" kuno! Halata ka, boy!

 
At Saturday, June 11, 2005 9:55:00 AM, Anonymous srd said...

Masyado kayo sa contract. Bakit sino ba sa inyo ang talagang sumusunod sa contract?

Let's take for exmaple THE MARRIAGE CONTRACT. Tayong lahat ba ay sumusunod sa kontratang yan? Moreso that the witness in this contract is the Supreme Being. Can you honestly say that never in your life that you didn't veer away from what the contract implies?

 
At Saturday, June 11, 2005 10:29:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

there's no free lunch in this world there will alway be in expense of someone else, its better to support the 300 pesos per plan rather than letting the yuchengco group rob you with the future of our child.

 
At Saturday, June 11, 2005 11:12:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Masyado kayo sa contract. Bakit sino ba sa inyo ang talagang sumusunod sa contract?

Let's take for exmaple THE MARRIAGE CONTRACT. Tayong lahat ba ay sumusunod sa kontratang yan? Moreso that the witness in this contract is the Supreme Being. Can you honestly say that never in your life that you didn't veer away from what the contract implies?"

Wow! What logic...this one really floors me! ROTF & LOL. Talk about throwing everything including the kitchen sink. The arguments Pro-Rehabs present are truly laughable! Sadly lacking in education, ethics, scruples, logic and everything else. Empty minds and souls but with pockets full of YGC money. Our hard-earned fully-paid contract money squandered by PPI. They are so funny, I wonder why I'm crying? Oh yeah, I remember now...I have this great big pain in my a__ where I got screwed by PPI when I wasn't looking. Sige lang, I'm sharpening my knives, oiling up my real steels and biding my time. Every dog has his day.

 
At Saturday, June 11, 2005 12:43:00 PM, Anonymous bmw said...

"I have this great big pain in my a__ where I got screwed by PPI when I wasn't looking. "

I don't think it was PPI which screwed you but Freakshow himself.

Why can't you answer the question? Does it mean you did not fulfill your side of the marriage contract?

In the end, inanities being stated by the coalition in their supposed fight against rehab will come out fully.

when faced with facts, they resort to mudslinging (remember what they did to Mareng Winnie in earlier posts), discrediting individuals who cite opposing views against them.

Again, the challenge for this coalition is file suits in court if you believe you have the facts to back up your case.

Or are you still waiting for your numbers to be increased by creating linkages with other groups? Or your politician friends still has to give you the go-signal to proceed? Or your funding did not yet arrive from your 'benefactors'?

In any way, the challenge being brought to you is to have a case in court and not thru publicity.

It has been more than 2 months, but what concrete fruits has you made except for those mentioned earlier in some postings? Those mentioned are still to be fully credited to you although you have taken full responsibility for those.

Why can't you admit that your numbers are fastly dwindling? That your membership is not increasing as to your expectations!

Remember, not all of the planholders have the means to advance this fight unlike you exclusive planholders. Have you thought of ways to alleviate their situation? You should as you are taking advantage of their numbers.

You talk about squandering. Isn't it that your investment will be returned with the interests? Not as what you've expected but given the current situation, this is better than being issued postdated checks with the worry if these checks will be honored later.

You just turn a blind eye to the reality that the deregulated tuition fees has caused this problem. You contend that you should be given the full benefits. This should have been the case provided the situation did not change since 1992. You never take into consideration the 56,000+ plans that were able to avail fully. Also, by your greed the still-to-avail 18,000 plans are in jeopardy due to your incessant rantings and rumblings.

 
At Saturday, June 11, 2005 2:54:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't wan't to dignify you, bmw.

Think whatever you want to think. You're entitled to your own opinion.

 
At Saturday, June 11, 2005 3:28:00 PM, Anonymous vagabond said...

bmw said...
Remember, not all of the planholders have the means to advance this fight unlike you exclusive planholders. Have you thought of ways to alleviate their situation? You should as you are taking advantage of their numbers.

So now you admit that people are suffering and their situation should be alleviated. Hmmm.. I wonder who caused that suffering.. Certainly it was not the coalition. It was the doing of the people who hold your leash bmw.

bmw said...
Isn't it that your investment will be returned with the interests? Not as what you've expected but given the current situation, this is better than being issued postdated checks with the worry if these checks will be honored later.

How sure are you that the people who hold your leash will pay up in 2010 or anytime in the near future if this rehab of theirs pushes through? They refuse to live up to their part of an agreement now and they expect us to believe that they will fulfill their part of the bargain in 2010? what was that saying about fool me once? yes, if i believe them again and it turns out they were fooling me again, it's shame on ME! No, bmw, it does not work that way. We are not simpletons here unlike some enlightened entitites we know, arf!



bmw said...
You just turn a blind eye to the reality that the deregulated tuition fees has caused this problem. You contend that you should be given the full benefits. This should have been the case provided the situation did not change since 1992. You never take into consideration the 56,000+ plans that were able to avail fully. Also, by your greed the still-to-avail 18,000 plans are in jeopardy due to your incessant rantings and rumblings.

We turn a blind eye to deregulated tuition fees? Hell, the reason we bought those darn plans in the first place was because the guys holding your leash said THEY'D TAKE CARE OF THAT PROBLEM FOR US. ALL WE NEEDED TO DO WAS SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE AND PAY UP. Well, we did. We signed and paid up. If for one reason or another tuition fees did not behave the way THEY thought it would, it was NOT OUR PROBLEM, precisely WE PAID THEM to take care of that problem. If we were supposed to take care of that problem, what was the point of paying your masters for the plan in the first place?

As for the 56000+ plans which were fully availed, what of them? That is what the contract said they should get! You want a pat on the head for doing what you SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING as per contract? Maybe you want a pat in the head too for going to work on time. Hell you want a pat on the head for BREATHING!There is nothing extraordinary about the 56000+ plans except to say that there are 34000 more to go.

Our "greed" and our "rantings and rumblings" did not put the 18000 plans in jeopardy.

Your masters' decision to put greed before integrity put ALL stakeholders in pre-need in jeopardy. Not just 18000 planholders but EVERYBODY involved in one way or another in Pre-need! Now it is spilling over into the insurance industry and even into banking. You know why? Because your leash holders trashed the value basic in those industries, the value of TRUST.

BTW, You and your friends Fido,mjc, rover and bantay said we were few and insignificant, so why are you now flattering us by saying we are responsible for putting people in jeopardy? You are giving us too much credit. make up your mind, will you?

 
At Saturday, June 11, 2005 3:42:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To bmw

What are you a clown. I cant stop laughing since I read your comment.
Why not work in a comedy show.

 
At Saturday, June 11, 2005 3:46:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

To bmw

What are you a clown. I cant stop laughing since I read your comment.
Why not work in a comedy show.

Saturday, June 11, 2005 3:42:12

Hehe. looks like we found the real Freak show and it is not Philip!

 
At Saturday, June 11, 2005 3:55:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To bmw

I’m an ex stockbroker. I receive order from clients thru telephone calls which are not even recorded. Millions of pesos are transacted this way without any contract. It is all a matter of TRUST. It is the clients word against mine incase a client will not admit it was him who place an order. In a matter of minutes one can make and loose millions in the stockmarket. I sure am glad I don’t have Yuchengco as my client. The moment one break a trust, that person will be blacklisted permanently as far as we brokers are concerned.

 
At Saturday, June 11, 2005 4:46:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

From an insider, ygc hackers are being paid on a per comment basis in our blogsite. The fee is even doubled if they are successful in getting a response from a coalition member. This is precisely why they abandoned their blogsite completely and have increasingly been posting idiotic comments here. Please be forewarned since the more we respond the more they make money.

 
At Sunday, June 12, 2005 11:33:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHAT MADE THE TRADITIONAL EDUCATION PLAN SELL AT THAT TIME?
1.
AT WHATEVER COST AT THE TIME OF NEED.
2.
A HEDGE AGAINST INFLATION.
3.
ANTI-INFLATIONARY EDUCATION PLAN.

Parepareho lang ang ibig sabihin ng tatlong yan. This is the strength of the Traditional Education Plan when it was being sold to the public. Whether the original plan holders or secondary market. Kung may loophole man yang commitment na yan, ang sagot nila nuon was
4. OWNED BY YUCHENGCO

And these are the same reasoning that Helen Yuchengco Dee and her advisers are using against the plan. Tuition deregulation, increase in tuition expenses and no instrument to match the tuition increase.

All the pro-YGC bloggers posting here are employees& agents who probably got in PPI way after PPI has stopped selling this plans. This is why they do not have a full grasp of the product's commitment and their only concern is to keep receiving their paychecks.

But the employees like Roy Padiernos and associates like Gena Padilla( Agency manager ba siya ngayon or Group Manager?) who were there at the time this plan was being sold know fully well that PPI is dishonoring the contract and yet they support the attempt of Liwayway Gener and Helen Yuchengco Dee and that lawyer they have Tecson?( mga wala pa yan sa companya nuon.)

Uulitin ko lang uli why we bought this plan package and endorsed it to the public:
1.
AT WHATEVER COST AT THE TIME OF NEED.
2.
A HEDGE AGAINST INFLATION.
3.
ANTI-INFLATIONARY EDUCATION PLAN.
4.
OWNED BY YUCHENGCO.

OVER PROMISE, UNDER DELIVER.
Buti sana kung kwento kwento lang ito.

Kaso this is a plan. 34,000 contracts that Yuchengco got into.

Yuchengco can't get away with this.

 
At Monday, June 13, 2005 7:22:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

pro-YGC, paid PPI/Yuchengco hackers are posting very low-level, nonsensical issues that have long been resolved, i.e., tuition fee increases versus trust fund investment yields, traditional versus fixed value, number or size of coalition, fixed value subsidizing traditional, etc., etc., as well as pure insults and personal degradation.

just look at the low level to which discussions have dropped to. gone are intelligent inputs from tls, marc, etc.

these inadequate, inappropriate, inconsequential useless comments from all forms of YGC paid hackers such as bmw, kit, etc. will of course continue. but notice that more and more of the comments will be anonymous because they finally understood the logic that anyone who argues against the coalition is simply an illegitimate poster in this site, out not to help but to simply irritate legitimate coalition members having rational, logical, high-level discussions. it's been proven that you argue but in support of the cause of the coalition. you can argue points and strategies but with the intention of moving the cause forward by offering positive inputs and alternative strategies to make progress. all other comments and posts designed to prevent progress and question the cause are simply a waste of time. notice also that after intelligent, high-level posts such as this, the paid hacks will post something really low, lacking logic and reasoning, full of nonsense and aimed at emotions. its a typical psyche response in order to get a legitimate coalition member to answer back based on emotions. that way, the paid hacks get to resume their low level, unintelligent, inconsequential posts.

hope everyone thinks about their posts more. its better to have a blogsite with few but all intelligent comments rather than one with 100+ comments that are just pure garbage.

 
At Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:31:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

bmw,

if i were you, i'd be consistent with my personna here. kasi, reading the archives, you first posted in these message boards claiming to also be an aggrieved planholder but that you didn't like the coalition's tactic.

But now, you have just come out of the closet, you are now a fullblown yuchengco paid hacks as everyone suspected at first but was too polite to directly question you and to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Sana naman palitan mo yung identity mo dito because many people here still remembers your previous postings.

if this is how you earn money, no problem. kung nakakatulong naman kami diba? and ano ba naman since yuchengco would have to fork out more money then we are happy with that considering we are killing two birds with one stone - get yuchengcos to spend more money and show people how low the yuchengcos have stooped that they have to hire amateurs with 'jologs' writing skills.

 
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